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Katys Grandad
13-09-2012, 20:21
Firstly, apologies for a long post but I have quite a lot to say about US Car Hire's new rental partner SIXT at Miami Airport.

As many members will know, last month it became possible to rent a number of vehicles not available through the usual rental firms like Alamo and Dollar. For me, it was an attractive proposition because not only were the vehicles a bit different but US Car Hire rates were very competitive and far better than any I could find elsewhere. Add to that the consistently high service quality through this site and it looked a winner for me. I booked a Luxury car for a week and made a request through here for a Mercedes E Class which is 1 of the options in that category along with the BMW 5 series and Cadillac STS.

Before proceeding I would like to make it clear that US Car Hire have been exemplary in their handling of the booking and the negatives I will outline are in no way their doing.

I arrived in Miami yesterday afternoon but due to my flight being re-routed at the last minute, instead of getting to SIXT at 7.00 pm I was early and got there around 4.30 pm. The SIXT desks were very quiet and there was no queue so I went ahead and asked if I could take the car early and was told "no problem". The paperwork took a little longer than usual and it looked to me that the agent wasn't used to handling vouchers issued through 3rd parties such as US Car Hire. On 2 occasions she went to whom I took to be the supervisor to seek advice. Anyway, after around 15 minutes, everything appeared to be sorted and I was handed the keys to the car. From this point it all goes a bit pear-shaped.

The Good

I was allocated a gleaming white Mercedes E350 BlueTec saloon with 12k miles on the clock and obviously no more than a few weeks old. It is by some way the best rental car I have ever had and is fitted with just about every conceivable extra including a state of the art SatNav system which guided me out of Miami and across to the Gulf Coast quickly and luxuriously. I have to say that I absolutely love the car.

The Bad

From the moment I arrived at the desk there was something very unprofessional about the place and staff at SIXT. Apart from the uncertainty I mentioned above, the agent didn't want to communicate with me and all my questions met with a sort of mumbled non-committal response. When she finally handed the keys to me I asked if everything was in place and confirmed that I had an all inclusive package and she again just nodded. The reasons later became all too apparent.

I asked where I collected the car and her reply was like this - "You go the third floor, take a right and then another right and you'll see our cars in the garage. if you click you key fob there, you'll see which is your car because the hazard lights will flash". It seemed very odd but I followed her instructions and came to an area with cars parked in no particular order at the end of a larger garage. The was a small cardboard sign with "SIXT" on it stuck to the wall. I clicked the fob and the E Class hazards lit up and I loaded up and drove away. There were no members of staff in the area nor any exit gate to check everything was in order. It was daylight at that time but at night that location isn't somewhere I'd want to be alone, especially in Miami.

The Ugly

Very oddly, you don't see the agreement and make just 1 signature on an electronic screen on the counter. There's no information on the screen, just a box where you sign for the car and agree to the terms and conditions. I wasn't comfortable with that but, as I have said, was assured that all was in order so I signed. I agreed to taking a SunPass at $6.99 a day and that was to be taken from the credit card I handed to the agent on arrival. I was then handed what looks like a long till receipt which printed out after I signed.

I have since had chance to view that receipt in full and am horrified at what I have been charged.

Firstly, because I arrived a couple of hours early, I have been charged a full day extra rental for that period and the return time and date is as before.

I have also been charged a week plus the extra day Personal Accident cover. I wasn't asked if I wanted that and was assured everything was already taken care of through the voucher.

I have also been charged 8 days Roadside Recovery. As I had already taken that out with US Car Hire in advance I didn't want or need that and wasn't asked about it.

With taxes these 'extras' come to $161.

Finally, a sum of $2,499 has been blocked on my credit card as a security deposit. To be fair, I was aware that SIXT did hold larger amounts because I looked them up before renting but I never expected such a high and odd amount.


As things stand, I have had some pretty forthright dialogue with SIXT Customer Services about all this. They have assured me that they will look into it. I'm now waiting for a full response. Roulla at US Car Hire has very kindly offered to speak to the supplier if my own efforts don't resolve it. I'm grateful for that but hope I don't have to trouble her with it all.

I think it goes without saying that I'm very unhappy about this, particularly as the car is everything I had hoped for. I'll have to see how things work out.

syrup
13-09-2012, 20:35
Not a great start. I hope you get it all sorted out to your satisfaction and it doesn't spoil your vacation.


Keith

Katys Grandad
13-09-2012, 20:42
Thanks Keith. These things do get to you because it's not the amount, it's the knowing that you've basically been ripped off by what I suspect is a regular routine.

Jill
13-09-2012, 20:51
No wonder the agent behaved as they did - sounds like they were too busy scamming you. Thank you for the 'heads up' and I hope it acts as a reminder to the rest of us to check the agreements we sign as soon as possible. Am sure it will be sorted out but it istime consuming to deal with and I guess someone not used to car hire in the States might not find out until after their holiday and then not know how to complain.

roger
13-09-2012, 23:05
I'm really sorry to hear about your experience. As you know it's a new product for us and we are seriously thinking of putting Sixt on hold for a bit pending more feedback from other customers. It's really disappointing for us when we hear feedback like this as not only do we feel it reflects badly on our company, but it's a bad start to your holiday experience. Please do pass this back to us if you get nowhere with Sixt directly.

Katys Grandad
14-09-2012, 00:02
Thanks Roger.

My intention has been to inform others about what could happen to them. Now I know the routine there I wouldn't let it happen to me a second time and would actually consider using them in the future because the car is superb and your rates are very good value.

I will certainly let you know how it turns out.

steph_goodrum
14-09-2012, 06:11
Thanks for the feedback. It is very frustrating when, after a long flight you get taken advantage of. My husband would be very unhappy with this system in the regard that, once you have taken your car you should always inspect it and note and existing dmage which may be there if there is some and there is no way of noting it, then it would mean a trip back to Customer services desk to report it or risk being charged for the damage.

On the plus side sounds like you have got a great car and hope it gets sorted quickly wihtout taking too much of your holiday time. I wonder how those without credit cards would fare if they block off a large chunk of your money with a debit card (that may mean there wouldn't be enough in their account to pay for it or perhaps not be able to have any spending money. Thanks for taking the time for the heads up as gives people chance to check their options.

floridadreamvilla.co.uk
14-09-2012, 08:20
We've just taken Sixt off sale pending the outcome of this.

Gary Coughlan
14-09-2012, 14:02
Hi,

First of all, hello!! I am Gary from Sixt rent a car ( Please don't boo ) I think I am already handling this query on the Flyertalk Forum as details closely match. I will report back very soon my findings to the original poster, both here and on Flyertalk. If anyone has any questions or in need of any help, feel free to post. I will keep an eye on the thread.

To the Moderators: I am a company representative of Sixt rent a car, let me know if you have any trouble verifying my status.

Gary - Sixt Customer Service Team

Katys Grandad
14-09-2012, 15:11
Hi John

I've updated Roulla on a fairly promising response I've had from SIXT. I hope to know the full answer by Monday.

Thanks for your continued support.

floridadreamvilla.co.uk
14-09-2012, 15:20
You're welcome Phil. I actually escalated it to our supplier this morning, who looks to have taken it forward and hence the reply from the Sixt representative above (who is a genuine Sixt representative in case the Mods were unsure - welcome Gary :)).


Hi John

I've updated Roulla on a reasonably promising response I've had from SIXT. I hope to know the full answer by Monday.

Thanks for your continued support.

SteveandJan
14-09-2012, 15:46
I'm looking forward to trying SIXT next time round as I have had an extra days charges from Alamo for taking the car back later which isn't a problem as I had it longer than the contracted period as the car rental companies have to keep to a time band otherwise everyone would book them one time and take it another. Its more about the communication which I feel the rental companies often lack. Alamo this year charged us extra for the petrol than was on the rental agreement, when I queried this, they explained it was because we collected a different type car from the one we had paid for which resulted in a larger fuel tank, easily explained.

Robert5988
14-09-2012, 18:31
Well done KG - and the others.

It occured to me that in the days before the internet, problems like this would have taken weeks to sort out; and publicity on the internet(both good or bad) really has an effect.

Tonish
15-09-2012, 12:38
I have to say, I'm impressed by your ability to get fast action. Usually when I kick up a stink I get ignored.

Really useful info, though. I've been wondering how their prices seem lower than the rest. As you say, as long as you know what to look out for, it should be possible to avoid your experience, so thanks.

Tonish
15-09-2012, 23:33
I forgot to add that I agree that the car rental depots at Miami are not somewhere you feel at all comfortable in, and at night, without sat nav, are pretty much the pits of the earth. In the past we've had some horrible times trying to find our way in and out. Not the best of areas to say the least.

Jill
16-09-2012, 15:46
I forgot to add that I agree that the car rental depots at Miami are not somewhere you feel at all comfortable in, and at night, without sat nav, are pretty much the pits of the earth. In the past we've had some horrible times trying to find our way in and out. Not the best of areas to say the least.

Now they have been relocated away from the River Road area they do not seem so bad especially for those of us who are only going to the 27 which is now very straightforward especially as Le Jeune is a main cross road on the Miami grid system.

Katys Grandad
17-09-2012, 17:47
For anyone still interested in my experience I have received the following from SIXT:

"We understand that instances such as this are inconvenient, and members of our senior management have been made aware of this occurrence and the extreme difficulty it caused you. Our management team has spoken to all the staff members concerned and I can assure you that steps are being taken to ensure that the errors made on this rental do not occur again.

We are pleased to inform you that as a goodwill gesture, we will be removing the PAI insurance & Breakdown Assitance charge from your rental once the contract has ended and it has been invoiced. Please allow for about 3-4 business days for the refund to be processed and 5-10 business days for the security deposit to be released back into your account.

Please note: Our rentals are priced and quoted per day, whereby 1 day is equal to 24 hours. We understand that due to unforeseen circumstances you may return the vehicle slightly later than agreed. For this reason only, Sixt operates a 59 minute grace period. Once you enter this grace period, it does mean that you are returning the vehicle late, but we do not charge an additional day until this grace period has passed. We believe that 59 minutes is a fair amount of time as you should always endeavour to return the vehicle to the branch at the agreed time as stated on your rental contract.

We recommend that you return your vehicle on ..... (time stated is excluding the 1 hour of courtesy), as to not incur an additional day charge for your rental.

We are pleased to inform you that the following is a brief explanation of how our security holds are processed:

At the time of pick-up the estimated rental charges will be blocked with an approval on your credit card account to ensure payment after returning the car. Of course, this is only an obligation to provide security - the amount will not be debited from your account. It will be released when the rental is closed and the invoice is created. As per terms and conditions: A deposit of up to three times the hire price is charged to the chosen means of payment as a security. The deposit for high-value vehicles may differ. The exact deposit is determined on collection since the amount is dependent on the vehicle.

We hope this information was helpful to you.."

While I could perhaps take issue with some of that I'm not going to spend any more of my holiday dealing with it.

Above all, I want to thank all at US Car Hire whose intervention has been the main factor in this resolution. We're all fortunate to be customers of theirs.

freddiehollie
17-09-2012, 18:25
Above all, I want to thank all at US Car Hire whose intervention has been the main factor in this resolution. We're all fortunate to be customers of theirs.


I think we would all agree with that statement KG..........:-):-)

Lyn
17-09-2012, 21:03
We are pleased to inform you that as a goodwill gesture, we will be removing the PAI insurance & Breakdown Assitance charge from your rental once the contract has ended and it has been invoiced. Please allow for about 3-4 business days for the refund to be processed and 5-10 business days for the security deposit to be released back into your account.

We are pleased to inform you that the following is a brief explanation of how our security holds are processed:

At the time of pick-up the estimated rental charges will be blocked with an approval on your credit card account to ensure payment after returning the car. Of course, this is only an obligation to provide security - the amount will not be debited from your account. It will be released when the rental is closed and the invoice is created. As per terms and conditions: A deposit of up to three times the hire price is charged to the chosen means of payment as a security. The deposit for high-value vehicles may differ. The exact deposit is determined on collection since the amount is dependent on the vehicle.

Above all, I want to thank all at US Car Hire whose intervention has been the main factor in this resolution. We're all fortunate to be customers of theirs.


I think the wording "as a goodwill gesture" is an insult, it should not have been charged in the first place, to take the money from you and then expect you to wait for it to be refunded is totally unaceptable.

Also the security deposit seems to be very high and to have to wait so long for that to be released seems excessive to me.

Thank goodness for US Care Hire as they always come through when there is a problem.

Ian Dee
24-09-2012, 15:54
was just getting quotes from usa car hre etc and noticed the new company, so immediately came on this forum.
As ever, a useful thing to do.
I will be sticking to Alamo I think.

Ian Dee
24-09-2012, 16:16
Me again
I have been looking at the car rentals for 2 drivers.
Bit of a problem as e.g. Alamo Silver Inclusive Intermediate only says 'Drivers' i.e. no number.
seems to be the same on e.g. Dollar

Lyn
24-09-2012, 17:29
Silver Basic is 1 driver Silver Inclusive is 2 drivers, thats with Alamo not sure about Dollar, haven't used them in ages.

floridadreamvilla.co.uk
24-09-2012, 17:32
Dollar is just 1 driver, so is not available on Silver Inclusive. They are only available on the Silver Basic Inclusive (1 driver) and Gold Inclusive (4 drivers) options.

not sure about Dollar, haven't used them in ages.