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    Summer break, 2

    Sorry for delay, been away for the past day or two.

    So, to continue. Cleopatra exhibition was excellent, very well put together, with a surprising number of really fine pieces on display. We left there and headed back to the trolley bus for another stop - an ice cream place which the kids had spotted on a TV programme (Man vs Food, a really gross programme on Sky where some guy stuffs himself with huge portions). Had some mega banana splits, chocolate sundaes etc, which were very welcome. I don't know if I mentioned temperature, but it was hot, 94 or 95 and the heat index was 110 (according to the news in the morning). It made the day really quite exhausting, it was hard to escape the heat

    Final trip on the trolley bus back to the Independence Centre where we then caught another two of the dreadful cabs back to the hotel. By this stage we were all fairly tired and we spent some time arguing about where to go for dinner. As we couldn't agree on a restaurant and honestly couldn't face another cab journey, we decided to eat in the hotel restaurant, Lacroix. The hotel had given us $200 towards a meal there, so it seemed silly not to use it (I should have smelt a rat at this stage).

    Here's the media blurb for Lacroix, taken from the website:

    Award-Winning Dining, Considered Among The Finest In The World
    Experience the restaurant considered Philadelphia's most exquisite addition in more than a decade, which has truly earned a position among the world's premier dining settings. Voted "Best New Restaurant in the United States" by Esquire Magazine in 2003, Lacroix at The Rittenhouse has been attracting international acclaim ever since with its unique combination of stylish atmosphere, and fresh local ingredients. Just a few of our most momentous achievements include:

    Zagat Survey (2004, 2005, 2006 & 2007)
    Mobile 4 Stars (2007)
    Five-Star Award - American Academy of Hospitality Sciences (2005 & 2006)
    World's Best - Conde Nast Restaurant Hot List (2004)
    The World's Best Hotel Dining Rooms - Gourmet Magazine (2004)
    Best New Restaurant of the Year - Esquire Magazine (2003)


    There is nothing I like more than a really good restaurant, and having read the write up we figured it was worth a go, given that it was actually in our hotel and we could fall back into bed immediately afterwards, so off we went.

    I don't know what the general opinion here is about fine dining in the US. I enjoy the usual American fare as much as anyone, and the US is great for steaks, fast food, comfort food, particularly good for deli stuff etc, but as far as fine dining goes, forget it. They haven't a clue. Either the restaurant critics are gullible fools or they've never eaten in Europe.

    We had a decent but very disappointing meal, given the write up. I can do way better myself at home, and this place would last about two weeks in London. We had a great time, regardless - we try to pick a couple of conversation topics at the start of a family evening dinner and thrash them out over a couple of hours. Tonight's main topic was accents (Alison and I are stuck with our original Belfast ones which won't go away, despite us having completely assimilated to English life years ago) and their effect on the listener. The only real area of disagreement was the suitable punishment for those who pronounce the letter 'h' as 'haitch' (really sorry if I'm offending anyone), and how to deal with the teachers who mispronounce this but refuse to be recognise they've got it wrong. I'm really pleased that my children share my prejudices.

    Despite the lacklustre quality, the restaurant certainly knew how to charge, and they did it with a special gusto which almost took our breath away. The boys had steaks, Annabel had a burger, I had sea bass and I can't remember what Alison had. One bottle of wine, a couple of martinis and a couple of deserts - the $200 from the hotel came to less than a third of the total. The conversation topic changed abruptly when the bill arrived. I needed another drink to get over the shock.

    We were heading off
    Tonish


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    Another really interesting report Peter.

    I thought it was just me who regarded "Fine Dining" in the US as a complete joke. With the odd exception in New York, I've never found paying high prices resulted in getting better food and the usual "get what you pay for" principle seems to work in reverse over there. I really enjoy a good breakfast and some of the chain restaurants over there and you certainly never go hungry but after a couple of weeks I'm usually yearning for a decent meal. They should stick to what they're good at - speed, convenience, quantity and calorie content. I've lost count of the number of times I've been taken in by rave restaurant reviews and left the places telling myself "never again". Of course, in the hope that 1 day I will find somewhere I really like, I never stick to it.

    I'll be very interested to read where you eat on Captiva. As much as I love the place, there isn't a quality restaurant with 30 miles that I'm aware of. (Unless you know better?[msnwink]).


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    Hi Peter,

    thanks again for the report, completely agree with you and Phil on the "Fine Dinning". Whilst on Sanibel we found we could get excellent food in the supermarkets but the restaurents were very disapointing. Appart from the ice cream sundaes at "Island Cow" but thats hardly michllen Star!

    Look forward to your next report.

    Diane


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    <blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:Originally posted by Madabouttigger
    Appart from the ice cream sundaes at "Island Cow" but thats hardly michllen Star!

    Diane [msnsmile2]
    [/quote]

    But too many will make you like a Michelin Man Diane (well in my case more than I do already[msnwink]).


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    With you on the 'h' matter, really grates [msnmad]


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    <blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:Originally posted by Katys Grandad
    <blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:Originally posted by Madabouttigger
    Appart from the ice cream sundaes at "Island Cow" but thats hardly michllen Star!

    Diane [msnsmile2]
    [/quote]

    But too many will make you like a Michelin Man Diane (well in my case more than I do already[msnwink]).
    [/quote]

    LOL - heading in that direction too [msnwink]x


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    Another vote for lack of ‘fine dining’ in the USA.

    However I found a real exception in Downtown Orlando – the Grand Bohemian hotel. I was taken there by some(wealthy) relatives who spend their time travelling around Europe looking out the top restaurants.

    The menu was expensive for the USA – we had a set menu of 7 small courses(the chef’s choice) for about $100 a head - just for the food - and it was sensational; both the food and service. Foie Gras might be banned in California – but not Orlando!!

    Having worked in London for many years and enjoyed expense account meals in all the top establishments, the Grand Bohemian is right up there with any I have visited.


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    I am with you on th aitch thing. I worked in a school before I retired and think I was the only one who pronounced it correctly, used to drive me insane.
    Lyn


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    [high5]HHHHHHHHHHHHHHH[high5][laugh]
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    I agree over the Aitch- infuriating- and also how newscasters and presenters think there are two R's in Drawing! Grrrr- Having been to Philly [as we say- we went to Philly and it was shut] I agree there is a lack of fine dining against Europe- but it is also something we have found to avoid in the US- no point paying out hundreds of Dollars for an average meal there, stick to what they are good at- Steaks burgers Apple Pie and Ice cream
    Great Report!


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